How much coffee for a 25 cup percolator?


This mail prompts me to respond to three different issues:


1. The 'recipe' for coffee:


The correct recipe for coffee is 1 part grounds to 6 parts water.

In other words, if you are making coffee with 6 oz. of water, then

you use 1 oz. of freshly ground coffee, or 2 Tbs. This will produce

about 5 oz. of brewed coffee.


I know I've gone into far to great a depth on this issue in other

postings, so I'll just leave it at that here ;->


2. The measures on coffee pots:


If a coffee pot claims to make '25 cups' it probably actually only

makes a little more then 15 'true' cups. This is because a standard

measure for a 'cup' when you are talking about either coffee or tea

is directly related to those small little cups that come with your

china sets (that never have a large enough finger hole for me :-).

And which only hold 5 oz of coffee comfortably, leaving a little

room for milk, sugar, and stiring. Now maybe there is a little more

history for a '5 oz. cup', but the point here, is that a 'cup' is

not necessarily a Cup, and just because you make a "6 Cup Pot Of

Coffee", doesn't mean you will get 6 'Mugs' (which normally hold a

full cup) of coffee from it...


3. Can you really make good coffee in a percolator pot? :


A true percolator pot is 'almost' the worst way to make coffee that has

yet been invented. Actually, it is number two on the list. Hobo Coffee

comes in first :->


There are two cardinal rules of making good coffee that percolators

break:


1. Once coffee is brewed, never let it boil.


This causes bitter coffee.


The very backbone of a percolator pot, is that it 'boils' the water in

the bottom of the pot to push it up the spout and over top of the grounds

in the upper container. While it is possible to get this temperature to

be just slightly under the boiling point and still perform its function,

it is rare to find a percolator that is this highly tuned. And even so,

this temperature is still too high to keep coffee at for more then 5

minutes or so.


2. Never brew coffee 'with' brewed coffee.


This 'over extracts' coffee, and increases the bitterness.


Again, the very definition of percolators is that it pushes the 'brewing'

coffee up and over the grounds time, and time again.


So, if you have a choice, never, ever buy or use a percolator pot for

brewing coffee. If you do, it would probably be best to not even bother

trying to use a gourmet coffee, there is no way the quality of the

coffee would be apparent in the final results.


If you 'must' use a percolator pot, and you want to try to make a

decent cup of coffee. Here are some pointers:


- Make sure the brew basket and pot is well cleaned and rinsed.


- Always start out with fresh cold water.


- Carefully measure the coffee grounds. Using 2 Tbs of grounds for every

6 oz. of water that you are using.


- If you have any control over the 'temperature' that is used for brewing,

experiment a little with only water in the pot. You want the water to

come to a temperature of 200'F. A minimum of 195 and a maximum of 205.


- Make sure that the water level in the pot doesn't touch the underside

of the brew basket.


- Once the pot starts percolating, start timing. It must brew for at

least 6 minutes, and never longer then 8. I would recommend that

you turn it off at 7.


- Once the brewing process is finished. Promptly remove the brew basket

and stem.


- If at all possible drain all the coffee from the pot promptly. Use

pre-heated thermal carafes if necessary.



> Finally, the term 'caffè' is Italian for coffee (what Americans

> call espresso).


Deletia


>Moka/Mokka ......... The kind of coffee you get when you use a stove top

> espresso maker. "It's not quite espresso, so it

> doesn't really fall under that category."


But most folks in Italy just call 'Moka' (which actually might

be a trade name owned by Bialetti) 'caffè'. Things are clear from context.

If you're in a bar or resturant and ask for 'caffè', you get espresso.

If you are spending the night with Zia Rosina and are offered

'caffè', you will get moka--unless Cesare struck it rich and owns a fancy

espresso machine. Either way, don't forget to add the sugar!


--jcd




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*** LIST OF SPECIALTY COFFEE/ESPRESSO DRINKS ***

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It is not possible to present such a list as this without

explanation and a bit of perspective.


There is great variation from region to region (and sometimes

even from shop to shop) in the definition of specialty coffee drinks.

Please keep in mind that the following information is highly

subjective.


Barry Jarrett emphasizes:


"Getting a *precise* definition of espresso drinks is not

possible, just as getting precise definitions of cocktails

isn't possible.... Proportions vary and individual baristas modify.


[for example] Generally, a capp is 1/3,1/3,1/3... although this

becomes blurred when a 'latte' has foam on it. The line between

latte and capp is very vague, and the exact meaning of any of these

terms can vary from shop to shop. E.G.: our regular latte has a

double shot, little or no foam. In Seattle, that's a 'double latte'.

In Australia, a Seattle latte, one shot & no foam, is called

a 'flat white'. "


David Ross adds:


"These lists are pretty useless, since conventions differ by

different parts of the country, and by particular shop within

cities. (The same is true for other coffee conventions - for

example, in Seattle French Roast is considered darker than

Italian Roast, the opposite of the New York convention.)"


As one contributor to the coffee newsgroups perhaps best put it,

if you are fussy about such definitions, then it is better to

order the drink the way you really want it than to rely on the

definitions given below (e.g. order "a single shot of espresso

with equal milk, no foam").


The point here is that when you travel, don't expect the definitions

you are used to to be the same definitions everyone else uses --

again, order it the way you want it and you'll avoid both

confusion and disappointment.


In addition, any of the drinks listed below can have a variable amount

of flavoring syrup added to them. Such syrups are available

in a wide range of fruit, nut, and sweet flavors. Many brands of

syrups have Italian names, though several are manufactured in the US.

With the exception of caff_ mocha, such variations are not listed below.


Finally, the term 'caff_' is Italian for coffee (what Americans

call espresso). The term 'latte' is Italian for milk.


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Espresso ........... [ess-PRESS-o] A 1-2 ounce drink made in by forcing

(caff_) hot water under pressure through finely ground

coffee beans. Typically, espresso beans are

darkly roasted but this is not a requirement.

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(Caff_) Americano .. Espresso diluted (after brewing) with an equal

portion of hot water. Not everyone agrees:

"Not necessarily. In many places an 'Americano'

may be a 'regular' coffee from a coffee maker."

Some definitions of Americano claim it is

espresso being diluted with 'regular' coffee.

But wait:


"...a shot of espresso in a regular cup of coffee?

This is called an 'Early Shirley' at my local..."


"we've had the espresso/coffee combo referred to

as a 'Hammerhead'."

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Breve .............. Espresso with steamed "half & half" (or cream)

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Cafe au Lait ....... Coffee and heated milk in latte proportions,

but using 'regular' coffee (a.k.a. "American

filter coffee") instead of espresso.

The 'regular' coffee should be brewed 'double

strength' to better reflect the heavier brew

ratio used by Europeans (in some places double

or triple the dose used by Americans). Still

another contributor writes "espresso with scalded

milk is a unique prep. Someone here recently

called this drink cafe au lait".

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Cafecito ........... A Cuban coffee drink made from espresso

and sugar.

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Caff_ Corretto ..... Espresso with a dash of an alcoholic beverage,

e.g. sambuca

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Cappuccino ......... [cap-uh-CHEE-no] A shot of espresso with the remainder

being 50% steamed milk and 50% milk foam/froth. An

alternative description is 1/3 espresso,

1/3 steamed milk, 1/3 foamed milk. But again,

this depends very much on the maker. Many places

use more steamed milk and less froth. "Cappuccino

is essentially a latte topped with milk FOAM."

Another contributor states "The foam should

follow the milk to the cup naturally. [if] It is

added with a spoon then [it] is _no_good."


But just the opposite is true in other places.

"I just started working as a barista, here in Berkeley,

about a month ago. When I was shown how to make

Cappuccino's, I was told that a Cappuccino has no

steamed milk - only foam. The place I work is in a

Hotel near UCBerk, and a lot of my customers are

European. One Italian gentleman ordered a cappuccino

from me, and I hadn't let the foam sit long enough

and a *tiny* bit of milk seeped into the shot of

espresso. He asked for another cappuccino,

saying I hadn't made it right, so I asked him how

it was done. He made another one, and it was a jet

black shot of espresso with more than just a dollop

of foam on top."


Referring to the above description, Geoffrey Maugham

writes: "We have always referred to this kind of

cappuccino as a "dry" or "light" cappuccino. You can

tell the difference between a good 1/3-1/3-1/3

cappuccino and a latte by their weight.


Finally, some interesting history on the word

cappuccino, according to the American Heritage

Dictionary:


"The history of the word cappuccino exemplifies

how words can develop new senses because of

resemblances that the original coiners of the

terms might not have dreamed possible. The Capuchin

order of friars, established after 1525, played an

important role in bringing Catholicism back to

Reformation Europe. Its Italian name came from the

long, pointed cowl, or cappuccino, derived from

cappuccio, "hood" that was worn as part of the

order's habit. The French version of cappuccino

was capuchin (now capucin), from which came English

Capuchin. The name of this pious order was later

used as the name (first recorded in English in 1785)

for a type of monkey with a tuft of black, cowllike

hair. In Italian cappuccino went on to develop

another sense, "espresso coffee mixed or topped with

steamed milk or cream" so called because the color of

the coffee resembled the color of the habit of a

Capuchin friar. The first use of cappuccino in

English is recorded in 1948 in a work about

San Francisco."

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Cold Brewed ........ Coffee brewed using cold or lukewarm water.

Usually brewed double or triple strength and

the diluted with water and heated. This

concentrated 'coffee mix' is created by

allowing grounds to steep for several hours.

Said to taste quite different than hot brewed

coffee. (Note: This is not considered to

be espresso.)

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Espresso Con Panna [ess-PRESS-o cone PA-na] Espresso with a dollop

of whipped cream.

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(Caff_) Latte ...... [caf-AY LAH-tay] Espresso with steamed milk and

in some shops, a small cap of foam. It has less foam

than a cappuccino. Definitions blur easily here.


In Australia: " 'Latte' gets you a _glass_ with

a shot of espresso and lots of milk and

some foam - half way between a flat white and a cap.

Seems to have originated as the breakfast drink of

Sydney commuters. Has become infinitely fashionable

due to the need for brass glass holders, which

only the fashionable coffee houses have (the rest of

us wrap the glass in a napkin)"

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Lattecino .......... Espresso with steamed milk and about a half

inch of milk foam on top. (NOTE: This is

commonly served as "latte" in some parts of the

country.) Some enthusiasts feel this name

is a pretentious invention by overly imaginative

coffee shops. On the other hand...

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(Caff_) Lungo ...... A 'long pull' espresso. It is an espresso

diluted by allowing a longer extraction

thereby resulting in a weaker drink.

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Macchiato .......... [mock-e-AH-toe] Some say this is espresso with about

(caff_ m.) a half inch of milk foam (no steamed milk). But some

(espresso m.) strongly disagree. One enthusiast writes of

the above definition: "Surely not. Macchiato

(lit. "marked") is a dash of milk or cream

in espresso." Another writes "the chap who

serves me espresso, and who has been roasting

coffee and selling and leasing machines for

several years ....tells me that Macchiato is

made with half-and-half."


From Australia: " 'Macchiato' has two variations

here - long and short. 'Short' is an espresso (in

the mandatory micro cup) with just a dash of

milk. This is the default at most trad. Italian

mum & dad restaurants. 'Long' is a _glass_ with

two shots of espresso, and small amount of

milk. The peak of macchiato making is to pour the

milk in so slowly that it never makes it to the

bottom of the glass. The resulting layered drink

has been known to inspire fear in the novice drinker.

This the default at coffee houses. Both of these

_seemed_ to have started out in small glasses (about

175ml) but the fashionable have demanded ever larger

glasses - of about 375ml.


Starbucks defines Espresso Macchiato as "1 shot of

espresso in a demitasse [topped with] a small dollop

of foamed milk.


Finally, this somewhat similar variation: "The

coffeehouse I work at serves as Macchiato, a layered

cappuccino. 1/3 steamed milk, 1/3 espresso sitting

on that (not mixed), and finally 1/3 milk foam. When

served in glass, it is quite elegant, and

when drunk, the foam insulates the coffee for

temperatures sake, the espresso hits the palate

first, and finally, the slightly sweet steamed

milk washes the palate. a fine beverage, though

perhaps not the standard."

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(Caff_) Mocha ...... [caf-AY MO-kah] A term of no small controversy.

Depending upon where you are, ordering a 'mocha' might

get you a 'latte' or a cappuccino with chocolate syrup

or hot cocoa. On the other hand, it might just send

the barista thermonuclear -- especially if the

word 'mocha' is not on the menu.


Mocha was a port in Yemen -- a major coffee-growing

country located in southwest Asia at the southern tip

of the Arabian peninsula -- and "it has NOTHING to

do with chocolate!!!!!"


One contributor states "However, my dictionary lists

Mocha as 'a flavoring obtains from a combined

infusion of coffee and chocolate' usage as dating

from the early 19th century (circa 1815 it says)"


For the record, the American Heritage Dictionary

gives the following 5 definitions:


mo+cha n. 1. A rich, pungent Arabian coffee.

2. Coffee of high quality.

3. A flavoring made of coffee often mixed

with chocolate.

4. A soft, thin, suede-finished glove

leather usually made from sheepskin.

5. Color. A dark olive brown.


[After Mocha, a town of southwest Yemen.]


One reader comments "I still don't see why a

Chocolate Latte has a special name when a

Raspberry Latte doesn't."


Starbucks defines caff_ mocha as "enough good quality

chocolate syrup to cover the bottom of the cup,

1 shot of espresso [...] fill with steamed milk

[...] top with a dollop of whipped cream [...] and

lightly sprinkle with cocoa powder".


Finally, one reader sends us "When I was in

New Zealand a popular coffee was a 'mochachino'

which was made by adding hot chocolate to espresso,

it was quite foamy (as foamy as the hot chocolate). "

The term 'mochacino' is apparently also used some

places in the US.


The best advice here is to check the menu before

ordering or ask for a "cappuccino/latte with

chocolate syrup".

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Moka/Mokka ......... The kind of coffee you get when you use a stove top

espresso maker. "It's not quite espresso, so it

doesn't really fall under that category." Don't

confuse this with 'mocha' (listed above).

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(Caff_) Ristretto .. A 'short pull' (stronger) espresso. "A ristretto is

an espresso made with less (half?) the water used

for a regular espresso.


"It is a 'ristretto' or restricted shot, where the

flow of water is turned off early giving a .75 to

1 oz shot instead of a 1.5 to 2 oz shot. VERY stout."

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